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ralph davis
10:07 PM on June 30, 2013
Chris says...
I have a question. With a concealed permit and an IC endorsement, can I carry a firearm, concealed, into a business with a sign posted NO FIREARMS ALLOWED? I am seeing more and more signs everyday. Where does the law stand?
Chris I think I can answer that and Rick can correct me if I'm wrong but According to the Department of Public safety if any property has a no guns policy, written or verbal, and you know that policy before you come on the property you are trespassing if you violate it.
So any of us with the IC sticker who carry in any location that we know or think may have a no weapons policy are taking a chance.
If the property is NOT marked or not clearly marked , you have not received verbal - no guns then certainly IC gives more flexibility to carry in areas other wise prohibited to Open carry and CCW Without Enhanced.
Seven thoughts on Open/Concealed Carry:
1 - House Bill 2 was written & passed by the Legislature simply to be a clarification of the definition of a "concealed" weapon. It correctly stated that the Legislature has the power to regulate concealed weapons but that Mississippi citizens have the right, specifically stated in our Mississippi Constitution, to bear arms for personal protection.
2 - This clarification was necessary due to an unreasonable opinion written by an Assistant State Attorney General that 100% of a weapon has to visible at all times for it to not be "concealed." In other words, the weapon must be laid upon a mirrored surface or somehow be made to levitate and spin in midair.
3 - The larger issue here is the right to defend one's "home, person, or property" as our Federal and State Constitutions guarantee (not just to defend one's person & property at home) - it is also not about hunting or target shooting.
4 - "No Weapons Allowed" signs - Any reasonable person must acknowledge that only law-abiding individuals will obey them. An armed robber will select the softest target available and avoid like the plague anyone trained, armed, and willing to defend themselves. Therefore, how could a felon not be absolutely delighted with a hunting ground guaranteed to be populated only with unarmed potential victims? By the way, could a merchant be held liable for injury caused to someone during an armed robbery committed at a location selected specifically because of the signs?
5 - Retail private property is not the same as residential private property. When my doorbell rings, I am in control of who and what may enter my home, but when I need groceries or medicine, I have no control over whom is in that store and whether they obeyed that sign. I urge all retailers to consider the position you are placing your customers and your employees in with those Helpless Victim Zone signs.
6 - I myself prefer not to carry openly for several reasons, but I am a responsible, well-trained individual who has the right to protect myself and my loved ones, and I believe that as an Enhanced Concealed Weapon permit holder, Mississippi law protects my right to carry a concealed weapon for personal defense except in three very specific places: a courtroom when in session, a "place of nuisance" and any law enforcement facility including jails. That privilege was granted by the Mississippi Legislature in Miss. Code 97-37-7 and has nothing to do with House Bill 2.
7 - Finally - remember this: When every second counts, Police are only a few minutes away ....
1 - House Bill 2 was written & passed by the Legislature simply to be a clarification of the definition of a "concealed" weapon. It correctly stated that the Legislature has the power to regulate concealed weapons but that Mississippi citizens have the right, specifically stated in our Mississippi Constitution, to bear arms for personal protection.
2 - This clarification was necessary due to an unreasonable opinion written by an Assistant State Attorney General that 100% of a weapon has to visible at all times for it to not be "concealed." In other words, the weapon must be laid upon a mirrored surface or somehow be made to levitate and spin in midair.
3 - The larger issue here is the right to defend one's "home, person, or property" as our Federal and State Constitutions guarantee (not just to defend one's person & property at home) - it is also not about hunting or target shooting.
4 - "No Weapons Allowed" signs - Any reasonable person must acknowledge that only law-abiding individuals will obey them. An armed robber will select the softest target available and avoid like the plague anyone trained, armed, and willing to defend themselves. Therefore, how could a felon not be absolutely delighted with a hunting ground guaranteed to be populated only with unarmed potential victims? By the way, could a merchant be held liable for injury caused to someone during an armed robbery committed at a location selected specifically because of the signs?
5 - Retail private property is not the same as residential private property. When my doorbell rings, I am in control of who and what may enter my home, but when I need groceries or medicine, I have no control over whom is in that store and whether they obeyed that sign. I urge all retailers to consider the position you are placing your customers and your employees in with those Helpless Victim Zone signs.
6 - I myself prefer not to carry openly for several reasons, but I am a responsible, well-trained individual who has the right to protect myself and my loved ones, and I believe that as an Enhanced Concealed Weapon permit holder, Mississippi law protects my right to carry a concealed weapon for personal defense except in three very specific places: a courtroom when in session, a "place of nuisance" and any law enforcement facility including jails. That privilege was granted by the Mississippi Legislature in Miss. Code 97-37-7 and has nothing to do with House Bill 2.
7 - Finally - remember this: When every second counts, Police are only a few minutes away ....
I felt just like most of the people who have commented BUT Rick gave me a lot of food for thought about open carry and although I have the ICCP and will on ocassion CC I will open carry much more often. If you have not taken th ICC class under Rick I would advise you to do so. It might change your mind also.
Bob E states it well about the food for thought as well as the quality of the training.
After having taken the IC class from Rick I can't envision many that would not or could not benefit from his program. Rick put on a very informative class covering much of the laws and issues a person involved in a self defense shooting will encounter. The shooting portion of the program thankfully covered scenarios likely to be encountered in a defensive situation.
Thank you Rick for a great program. Can't wait to get my family members through a class.
After having taken the IC class from Rick I can't envision many that would not or could not benefit from his program. Rick put on a very informative class covering much of the laws and issues a person involved in a self defense shooting will encounter. The shooting portion of the program thankfully covered scenarios likely to be encountered in a defensive situation.
Thank you Rick for a great program. Can't wait to get my family members through a class.
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Rick Ward
6:27 PM on August 18, 2013
Rick:
Thank you. It was a pleasure having you in the class. I look forward to meeting your family.
Rick Ward
Thank you. It was a pleasure having you in the class. I look forward to meeting your family.
Rick Ward
What is the problem with open carry? I lived in Arizona (Tucson and the south rim of the Grand Canyon) for many years, and open carry is just plainly an accepted way of life. In the grocery store line, the bank, etc. fellow standing next to you with an model 29 on his belt. Arizona is a very polite society, indeed.
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Rick Ward
9:42 PM on August 28, 2013
Just the culture and fear of something they have not experienced before.
spyderhead says...
What is the problem with open carry? I lived in Arizona (Tucson and the south rim of the Grand Canyon) for many years, and open carry is just plainly an accepted way of life. In the grocery store line, the bank, etc. fellow standing next to you with an model 29 on his belt. Arizona is a very polite society, indeed.
Finally got my Enhanced Permit in the mail a few weeks ago. I have been OC up till then. Will continue to be OC until the weather occasionally forces me me to go CC. I travel the state delivering lost luggage to passengers from the Jackson Airport. Am out and about all times of the day and night depending on my shift. To date, no one has questioned my OC except one store clerk while shopping the sporting goods section of a dept store. I feel if more folks carried openly, there would be a reduction in the violence in MS overall. However, I respect the decision of those who wish to CC. Proper training and proper education are vital to either view. Be Safe. Have Fun. Enjoy Life
To clarify , does the sign posted on the door of a business is that for open carry or concealed?
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Bernice Rogers
11:25 PM on August 9, 2015
Any concealed weapon classes closer to north Ms coming up. I live in Starkville but familiar with the northern part of the state.
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Morris "Monk" Strange
10:50 AM on April 20, 2016
Sean, Hope all is well. Took the course Sat. in Vburg. Was at Capital Grill in Jx. Mon.when a dude tried to grab cash drawer and run. Dude was looking at about 4 guys w/their pistols drawn before he spit. Chanel 3 interviewed me & I told them "good guys with guns win, bad guy looses". Needed to be said and I'm glad they put it in the story. Thanks for the tune-up on Sat. Stay safe,
Morris "Monk" Strange.
Morris "Monk" Strange.
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